Governor picks retired partisan hack judge to sit on nonpartisan judicial commission

In defense of the girl from The Lazy D (0.00 / 0)

You have to know that her husband's health, the slide that is Alzheimer, had begun in 1990 and she wanted to retire in 2000.

You have to listen to her speeches, post retirement, about the independence of the judiciary. We are taking about comparison to Russia in a speech.

She was fired right back at Tom DeLay's intimidation of Article III by the threat of Article I withholding funds. You have to listen to her reaction to post turtle Sen. Cornyn suggestion that activist judges bring violence on themselves and their families. She was not afraid to use the word dick-tater. I heard that speech in May 2006, but only reporter there that day was Nina Totenberg of NPR.

Independence of the Judiciary: she still has an office in the SCOTUS building. My brother-in-law has an ao.uscourts email. If she had Scalia's attitude about Bush v Gore, I be right behind you.

But not me personally were those cheers for (1-6-7-5-2-8-3-4)--Sarah Palin

You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you--Zbigniew Brzezinski

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by: CA Berkeley WV @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 17:46:46 PM CDT

I understand (0.00 / 0)

I understand the emotional pull she has for some. But she based her decision on Bush v. Gore on being a Republican, not on the matter of the law. That's why the majority said their decision only applies to that case and that case only because they know the precedent it set was shit.

Terry: You say that she had her mind made up about Bush v Gore. She thought that George W Bush should win the case as well as the election.

Toobin: She's a Republican and proudly so. She was the majority leader of the Arizona State Senate. She identifies with Republicans. She particularly liked the elder President Bush and his wife Barbara. Those were her kind of Republicans and on election night, she and her husband were unusually open about their hope that President Bush would win the election.

She regretted her decision later, but that doesn't change the fact she made her decision in that case for partisan political reasons and not as an independent, judicious person.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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by: Carnacki @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 19:53:29 PM CDT

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I believe in redemption (0.00 / 0)

Even cowgirls get the blues.

Toobin: See this is what I really learned in writing my book. This is what surprised me is the effect that this decision had on O'Connor. Because the reaction to Bush v Gore was so extreme and so angry that it really challenged O'Connor's conception of herself as someone who was fair and non-partisan and someone who was a supreme court justice universally respected and she was really taken aback by that.

I still believe in rehabilitation as the function of prison system, too, so call me naive.  

But not me personally were those cheers for (1-6-7-5-2-8-3-4)--Sarah Palin

You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you--Zbigniew Brzezinski

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by: CA Berkeley WV @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 11:37:55 AM CDT

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CA Berkeley (0.00 / 0)

I'd never call you naive and I respect your opinion even when mine differs.

When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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by: Carnacki @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 11:59:07 AM CDT

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how about cowgirl rather that partisan hack judge? K? (0.00 / 0)

But not me personally were those cheers for (1-6-7-5-2-8-3-4)--Sarah Palin

You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you--Zbigniew Brzezinski

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by: CA Berkeley WV @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 17:47:47 PM CDT

CA Berkeley (0.00 / 0)

She has to live with the ignomy of her Bush v. Gore decision hanging over her for the rest of her life. Whatever regrets she has had since do not make up for the harm that led to in this country.


When a man embarks upon a crime, he is morally guilty of any other crime which may spring from it. Sherlock Holmes.

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by: Carnacki @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 19:34:57 PM CDT

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I did not know you in 2000? (0.00 / 0)

Chief Justice Rehnquist had said the same thing. Do you have the same opinion of Justice Kennedy? Without the Cokie Roberts style reporting from the cocktail party would you still have the same opinion of Justice O'Connor?

Already owned Shrub by Molly Ivins and was trying to educate co-workers, with family who knew of Dubya mishaps in Maine that supported that yellow police card. We can rehash the decision to have Uncle Joe as VP, Gore losing Tennessee and West Virginia 2000, how Gore's campaign mishandled the media aspect of the Florida recount, getting out foxed by the "Brooks Brother" revolt (where the mother-in-law shopped for Poppa's shirts), or not.

Boies had his chance. Souter, Breyer, Ginsburg, Stevens in conference had their chance. Rehnquist, Thomas, Scalia, Kennedy, O'Connor. Not one of the 50 Democratic Senators would sign on the the House protest from the Congressional Black Caucus. Now, that's a failure of almost HHS Sec. Daschle.

Sen. Byrd in the Senate speaking against the rush to war, rejected, Sen. Bob Graham referring to the actual intelligent report, rejected. Jello Jay, so polite. Mollohan and Rahall in the House had their chance and got it right. How do we get there if City Hospital runs FAUX NEWS on a captive audience, giving them Hannity and O'Reilly while they wait?

I see the pictures from the Tehran streets. Women in green head scarves with purple ink on the finger in one hand and a rock in the other. I am still sitting here with my intertubes, and free WV Public TV with many digital channels. You want to continue this 10 July?

But not me personally were those cheers for (1-6-7-5-2-8-3-4)--Sarah Palin

You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you--Zbigniew Brzezinski

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by: CA Berkeley WV @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 21:11:01 PM CDT

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Don't be too sure that Bush V Gore has anything to do with the case at hand. (4.00 / 1)

It's far more likely that "Party Loyalty" has far less to do with swaying Manchin's selection than does his corporate loyalty (aka "personal avarice"). Because DINO Joe Manchin has, after all, been one of the real rainmakers for the "Democrats for Underwood" conspiracy against his former WV primary rival, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Charlotte Pritt.

The reason that I'm more persuaded by allegations of Manchin's party disloyalty than is my friend Carnacki is because in the very beginning I had personally backed Manchin during his run against Pritt. But after his defeat in the primaries I witnessed him completely go against his personal assurances of party loyalty and even watched as he helped raise money for his pal Cecil Underwood at several small but powerfully connected rallies.

Aside from having been personally hoodwinked by Lloyd Jackson that Manchin would make a better governor than Pritt, what's bothered me most is that after all this time WV media has never properly reported Manchin's defection. And although I can't be certain that Manchin didn't

"turn around and stab Wise in the back in 2004 by supporting a leaking of Wise's affair with another female"

as has been alleged, I do know first hand that Joe Manchin had wholeheartedly supported Underwood by helping him line up campaign donors in tandem with his pal, who was the former president of WV's upper chamber, Senator Lloyd Jackson (DINO-LINCOLN).

So that's why I strongly believe that Manchin is now loading up his oversight panel with the best BigCoal shills that money can buy. Big Coal is certainly spending the most money to protect its own political interests of any WV corporate entity. So we all may as well face it. Practically the only Big Business left in WV is BigCoal.

You load Sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company storee

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by: One Citizen @ Mon Jun 15, 2009 at 23:46:47 PM CDT

I have alwasy wondered what Gov. Wise did to get outed (0.00 / 0)

besides thinking of unleashing DEP against timber and coal for the 2002 floods.

But not me personally were those cheers for (1-6-7-5-2-8-3-4)--Sarah Palin

You know, you have such a stunningly superficial knowledge of what went on that it's almost embarrassing to listen to you--Zbigniew Brzezinski

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by: CA Berkeley WV @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 00:16:51 AM CDT

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I like Justice O'Connor (0.00 / 0)

A lot. I can think of no better or wiser jurist to be involved in cleaning up WV's corruption.

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by: WV26003 @ Tue Jun 16, 2009 at 09:42:38 AM CDT